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We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network

BTC242: Bitcoin Core Vs. Knots w/ NVK (BItcoin Podcast)

We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network

Stig Brodersen

Education, Investing, Business

4.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Preston Pysh welcomes back NVK, renowned Bitcoin expert and founder of Coinkite, for an in-depth conversation on the future of Bitcoin, the evolving dynamics of its core development, and the promising rise of decentralized platforms like Nostr. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro  02:01 - How Bitcoin's increasing price may sustain mining incentives post-halving 09:37 - The evolution from Satoshi’s original code to the current Bitcoin Core 14:15 - Insights into Bitcoin Knots and the separation of wallet and consensus code 19:41 - Critiques of Bitcoin’s development scene and current conference culture 20:09 - The controversy surrounding Bitcoin Core’s GitHub governance 24:22 - Debates around removing the OP_RETURN 83-byte limit 32:23 - Nostr’s potential to revolutionize identity and AI communication 35:45 - Key adoption challenges facing Nostr and possible solutions 44:44 - The philosophy and features behind Coinkite’s hardware wallets Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES NVK’s Company: ColdCard Bitcoin Hardware Wallets. Join NOSTR at Primal. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Premium Feed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Mastermind Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bitcoin Fundamentals Starter Packs⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Finance Tool⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy exclusive perks from our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠favorite Apps and Services⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠best business podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: SimpleMining Hardblock AnchorWatch Human Rights Foundation Unchained Vanta Shopify Onramp Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0

You're listening to TIP.

0:02.7

Hey, everyone, welcome to this Wednesday's release of the Bitcoin Fundamentals podcast.

0:06.8

On today's show, I sit down with NVK, the founder of Coin Kite and the creator of Cold Card

0:12.0

for a high signal discussion on the evolving state of Bitcoin.

0:15.8

We explore the long-term dynamics of the Mempool incentives, the growing divide between Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin

0:22.2

Knotes, and what's really at stake with Mempole filtering, we also dig into CTV and what

0:28.3

it unlocks for Bitcoin's scalability and the promise and limitations of Noster and why

0:33.5

institutional custody is more about legal architecture than technical constraints.

0:38.5

All right. So with all of that said, let's jump right into this interview with the one and only,

0:42.9

Mr. NVK.

0:48.2

Celebrating 10 years. You are listening to Bitcoin Fundamentals by the Investors Podcast Network.

0:55.0

Now for your host, Preston Pish.

1:06.3

Hey, everyone.

1:07.2

Welcome to the show.

1:07.9

I'm here with the one and only NVK, repeat guest, super technical and smart individual with anything to do with Bitcoin. Welcome to the show, NVK.

1:17.6

Hey, Preston. Thanks for having me back. So here's where I want to start. And I think it's in an area that many probably aren't expecting. And it's just really kind of talking about the mempool. It's talking about fees. And it's talking about the long term viability of fees taking over and really kind of providing the revenue for miners long term in the face of so much happening on, call it layer twos or ETFs and basically

1:49.0

everybody choosing these surrogate holding entities for how they get exposure to Bitcoin.

1:54.8

What are your thoughts on this?

1:56.2

Is it something that we should be concerned with?

1:58.4

What are your thoughts here?

1:59.4

I mean, you know, like most things in life, number go up, fixes almost everything.

2:04.7

That's true. Okay, keep going.

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