BS 165: Magic as a Tool for Understanding the Brain
Brain Science with Ginger Campbell, MD: Neuroscience for Everyone
Ginger Campbell, MD
4.8 • 896 Ratings
🗓️ 10 January 2020
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
This episode is an encore presentation of an interview with neuroscientists Stephen L. Macknik and Susana Martinez-Conde. We talk about their international bestseller "Sleights of Mind: What the Neuroscience of Magic Reveals about Our Everyday Deceptions." Macknik and Martinez-Conde are neuroscientists who study vision, but several years ago they had the innovative idea of collaborating with magicians to explore how their use of both visual and cognitive illusions reveals secrets about how our brains work.
This may sound esoteric, but it has practical consequences, especially for making sound decisions in our complex world.
I will be back in 2 weeks with a new interview with Stephen Macknik.
Links and References:
- Sleights of Mind: What the Neuroscience of Magic Reveals about Our Everyday Deceptions by Stephen Macknik and Susana Martinez-Conde
- Stephen Macknik
- Susana Martinez-Conde
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Brain Science, the |
| 0:05.0 | Brain Science, the podcast that explores how recent discoveries in |
| 0:09.0 | neuroscience are unraveling the mystery of how our brain makes us human. |
| 0:13.6 | I'm your host Dr. Ginger Campbell, and this is episode 165. |
| 0:18.8 | Today we will be exploring how magic can be used to learn about how our brains process perceptual information. |
| 0:26.0 | Mostly vision, but also from other senses. |
| 0:30.0 | Just as visual illusions reveal surprises about how vision works, |
| 0:35.0 | it turns out that magicians are masters at exploiting the shortcuts |
| 0:40.0 | our brains used to perceive the world. |
| 0:42.8 | Before I tell you about today's interview, |
| 0:44.7 | I want to remind you that you can get complete show notes |
| 0:47.5 | and episode transcripts on my website at brainscience podcast.com. |
| 0:52.3 | You can send me feedback via email at brain science |
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| 1:01.5 | forward slash Doc Artemis, and you can also post to the |
| 1:07.0 | Brain Science Podcast fan page on Facebook. Don't forget that you can subscribe to brain science for free in your favorite |
| 1:15.6 | podcasting app. Today I'm sharing an interview with Dr Stephen McNick and |
| 1:22.1 | Dr. Susanna Martinez Conde. |
| 1:25.0 | They're the authors of the book Slights of Mind |
| 1:29.2 | what the neuroscience of magic reveals about our everyday deceptions. of But I am replaying it today because I'm going to be doing a new interview with Dr. Stephen |
| 1:46.4 | McNick later this month. |
| 1:49.3 | Since this interview was recorded, Stephen and Susanna have moved from Arizona to New York where |
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