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Hello, I'm Katie Piper and welcome to my podcast, Katie Piper's Extraordinary People.

Each episode, I'll meet an amazing person with an incredible story,

who faced adversity and came through the other side to inspire others. I am sat opposite a very

extraordinary guest today. It's somebody who's personally helped me loads, but we've never met,

which is very modern. She's an author,

she's a journalist and a mental health campaigner. I am joined by Brianie Gordon. Hi, thanks for

having me. You're an extraordinary person. Oh, well, take the compliment. Yes, okay,

that's British, isn't it? I really do. I've got this thing that I'm quite passionate about,

which is that very British, very British,

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