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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Bryan Stevenson on the legacy of enslavement

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.610.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Vox's Jamil Smith talks with attorney, author, and activist Bryan Stevenson about the newly expanded Legacy Museum in Montgomery, Alabama. They discuss the museum's project to connect America's history of enslavement with the contemporary realities of voter suppression, police brutality, and mass incarceration. They also talk about the museum's relationship to Stevenson's work with the Equal Justice Initiative, and legal advocacy on behalf of the wrongfully convicted. Host: Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith), Senior Correspondent, Vox Guest: Bryan Stevenson, founder and executive director, Equal Justice Initiative References: The Legacy Museum: From Enslavement to Mass Incarceration (400 N. Court Street, Montgomery, Alabama) The National Memorial for Peace and Justice (Montgomery, Alabama) Just Mercy: A Story of Justice and Redemption by Bryan Stevenson (Penguin Random House; 2015) "Images of Border Patrol's Treatment of Haitian Migrants Prompt Outrage" by Eileen Sullivan and Zolan Kanno-Youngs (New York Times; Sept. 21) Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: Amber Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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How can a museum dedicated to the legacy of slavery make the country more just?

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I'm Jamil Smith, and I'm your host for Vox Conversations.

1:21.4

The first thing you see when you walk into the legacy museum in Montgomery, Alabama,

1:25.6

are ocean waves crashing up against huge video screens in front of you.

1:35.0

It's a haunting reference to the middle passage,

1:37.5

where countless numbers of kidnapped Africans met their end before the slave ships arrived on

1:42.2

foreign shores. It marks the first chapter of African American history in this nation,

1:50.9

and it sets the tone for the legacy museums' journey through the timeline of Black

1:55.2

Life in this country. The museum takes visitors on a journey that draws a continuous line from

2:02.7

the days of chattel slavery, all the way to the voter suppression and massive carceration

2:08.2

that we see today. At the very end, you wind up in a giant room with couches in the middle,

2:18.4

and floor to ceiling pictures of black luminaries who were passed on.

2:21.8

The looking down on you as if from heaven, everyone from Frederick Douglass to Shirley Chisholm

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