On this episode of the Playbook, I have Brian Leach, founder and CEO of IBOTA, and we're

going to talk about what does it take to pay out over a billion dollars in cash to more

than 35 million users? Join me for all of this and more on the Playbook.

This is Entrepreneurs the Playbook. For each week, I bring you some of the greatest athletes,

celebrities, and entrepreneurs to talk about their personal and professional playbook to success,

and what made them champions on the field and in the boardroom. I'm your host, David Meltzer.

I have over a covering lawyer like myself, but an extraordinary entrepreneur, Brian Leach,

founder and CEO of IBOTA, an incredible app that's just killing it. Brian, welcome to the Playbook.

Thanks for having me. Well, you know, I'm looking at your background and I'm thinking to myself,

these are a tale of two worlds, which I myself have experienced. I'm just taking a guess

that your parents put a little bit of pressure or at least some influence on academics in your life.

Is that true? It's true. It's true. My father and mother both value to education and I think I

watched a few good men when I was a kid and decided to be a lawyer so I could be like Tom Cruz

in that movie. Oh, I thought you were going to say Jerry McGuire and hit me where, you know,

I grew up. So, interesting though, because you are educated at the highest level. I think

I was counting more Ivy League schools that you went to through your masters in law degree and

undergrad. And it seemed like you took a major shift from being a top lawyer. I mean, you clerk

for a Supreme Court justice. You had worked for one of the most notable law firms in the country.

You were absolutely in the social science arena, which I really thought was interesting,

so you must have studied a lot of history and a lot of politics. But this paradigm shift,

I went through it myself, but what was it that motivated you, inspired you to let people laugh

at you, scoff at you, make fun of you, that you're going to leave probably one of the most stable

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