This is Hidden Killers with Tony Brewski.

Here now, Tony Brewski.

There's a certain irony in talking about Brian Koeberger's conditions behind bars.

Because for a man accused of taking out four college students

in one of the most brutal and high-profile cases in recent history,

the idea of his suffering is going to land differently, depending on who you ask.

There's maybe one or two people on this planet who may say,

I don't want that for him.

Probably mom and dad.

And that's about it. Some people will shrug and say,

good. Others will lean in with morbid curiosity. Others will fill the canteen of the prisoners who are making his life a little living hell. Wanting to know just how miserable things can get

when the state locks you away and throws away

the key. At least that's what we're going to be diving into today. Now that Ryan is spending

the rest of his life behind bars. But what's filtering out now from the Idaho Maximum Security Institution paints a picture

that's both unsurprising and somewhat unprecedented.

On one hand, anyone who spent more than five minutes studying the prison system knows

these are not kind, quiet, or safe places.

On the other, what's allegedly happening to Koberger feels organized, coordinated.

Like the population inside the prison was just as ready for his arrival as the media circus outside.

We're not talking about garden variety name-calling from down the tier.

We're talking about inmates using the prison's

own ventilation system like an intercom. Directing their voices, their taunts, their threats,

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