Hey everybody, I'm Ashley Vanfield and this is Drop Dead Serious.

Today's episode is all about some pictures.

So if you're listening on the podcast, I recommend you go to YouTube and take a look at the pictures

because some photos of Brian Coburger as a teenager have surfaced on Reddit and I have spoken

with sources who went to school with him, who say, that's him,

that's it, they're legit. What a difference a decade and a half can make. He is literally

double the person that he is now back in high school, meaning he's probably lost half of his

weight and become that much thinner that you wouldn't

recognize him.

And with all that weight loss, something else must have happened.

Because the personality that you're about to hear from one of his schoolmates from back

in the day and the description that she gives of who he was back then

compared to what we know of him now is night and day. It is not the same person. Something

happened either with his heroin use, something happened with his weight loss, something happened,

you know, as he processed his life from high school

and through college. But he is, he is definitely a transformed different person altogether

than, than who he was and what his high schoolmates remember him as and knew him as back then. So it's kind of crazy. I do this other show called On Patrol Live. I fill in for Dan Abrams. And one of the staff members on the show, as I was filling in last weekend, came up to me and said, it's good to see you again. Her name's Mandy. And she said, you know, I don't know if I ever told you this, but I went to school with Brian Coburger, to which I caught my breath, brought my jaw back up off the floor and said, Mandy, you need to talk to me on Drop Dead Serious. And she agreed. And on the day that we are talking, these photos have surfaced. So it's sort of great kismet that we can

talk about these photos, what she remembers of this kid, because they are definitely the

kid she went to school with. And all of the things since, what it was like to hear this news,

to hear that name, to know that you're connected, your school is connected, your town is connected,

your friends are connected. And then to sort of think back to the guy she knew compared to the guy

she's learning about now, this horrific serial killing monster, spree killing, however you want

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