Brian Johnson, thanks for being here.

Yeah, it's good to see you.

How are you feeling?

Maybe just share with us what you did a few days ago.

Yeah, I did five MEO DMT, which is the most powerful psychedelic on the planet.

It's somewhere between five and ten times more powerful than DMT.

And so, yeah, it's, so it's been 48 hours.

I'm still learning how to talk about it.

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Before we get into your experience, why did you choose to do it? Two things. One, mostly as a longevity experiment.

So when I started this project five years ago, the approach we had was go through all the scientific evidence ever published on health and longevity.

Try to find the interventions that have the best evidence ever published on health and longevity, try to find the interventions

that have the best evidence for effect size, and we just went down on the list from top

performing on down. So of course, you start with exercise, nutrition, sleep, and you work your way

down to things like hyperbaric oxygen therapy and sauna and then rapamycin

malformin. And so we never actually had on our radar psychedelics. They were always either

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