Bryan Fogel - Part 1
The Forward
Lance Armstrong
4.5 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 29 January 2018
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Bryan Fogel joins Lance to discuss his Academy Award nominated Best Documentary, Icarus. They discuss Bryan’s original vision of the film and how that changed. Bryan goes into detail about he got to know former Russian anti doping lab director Grigory Rodchenkov. They review the doping program that Bryan was on to compete at the Haute Route. Part one concludes with Bryan elaborating on how Russia was able to circumvent the testing process during the Sochi Olympic Games.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the forward podcast. I'm your host Lance Armstrong. My guest this week is Brian Fogel, |
| 0:05.9 | somebody that a lot of you have been asking for a lot of the time. His new film, |
| 0:12.1 | Icarus, nominated for an Academy Award just last week, made the final five. |
| 0:17.8 | I met Brian Fogle three years ago when he came to me with his idea. and his idea at the time was that he had done a bike and I'm saying it like this because this is really I'm literally sitting here at this looking at this dude like checking my phone like he's crazy |
| 0:33.2 | he's did a bike race in Europe last year and he's wants to go back and do it again but he's |
| 0:38.8 | yet he's gonna dope and he's gonna see if he can do better and he's gonna prove |
| 0:42.4 | that he can evade the testing. |
| 0:43.8 | And I'm sitting there going, dude, you are, you're fucking crazy. |
| 0:48.4 | And then I said, I said, well, how are you, who's helping you with this? |
| 0:51.6 | Who's, you know, who's making sure that your urine's clean and testing it for you etc ceter because you're not really you're never supposed to be able to do that I've never heard of anybody able to do that and he says oh I got this Russian guy. You know, I send it to Moscow and then he |
| 1:05.7 | tested and then he and at this point in the conversation I'm like, okay, I thought you were |
| 1:09.9 | crazy and now I know that you're crazy and so I mean I literally couldn't get out there quick enough. |
| 1:15.0 | Well, you know what? He might be crazy, but that shit got real. |
| 1:20.0 | And I mean, if you haven't seen the film, you have to see it. It is amazing and you know sitting here where we sit today in 2018 if you just read about |
| 1:30.8 | current politics and our country in Russia, you don't care anything about |
| 1:35.1 | cycling, you don't care anything about the Olympics, you don't care anything about |
| 1:37.6 | drug testing, you're still going to love this film because it's all there. |
| 1:41.5 | Congratulations to Brian and his crew. |
| 1:45.0 | For the first time in the Forward's history, this conversation went so long, |
| 1:48.0 | we're breaking this up into two parts, so today you will get part one |
| 1:52.0 | and tomorrow you'll get part two. |
| 1:55.0 | Before we get to part one with Brian Fogle, |
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