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🗓️ 8 January 2021
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Bryan Fogel won Netflix its first feature documentary Oscar with his Russian doping exposé “Icarus.” Critics at Sundance raved about his latest film, “The Dissident,” about the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. So why didn’t Netflix call to lock up the rights? Fogel shares why his new documentary had streamers running scared. And Tom Ortenberg, the executive who had the guts to distribute the film, explains why his company Briarcliff Entertainment wanted to take it on.
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0:00.0 | From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business. |
0:05.1 | Brian Fogel won Netflix its first feature documentary Oscar with his 2017 Russian doping expassee, Icarus. |
0:13.2 | Critics at Sundance lavished praise on his latest film, The Dissident, about the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. |
0:19.8 | So did Netflix call to lock up the rights? |
0:22.8 | Radio silence. Not a single global streamer stepped up with an offer, not for a penny, not for |
0:30.3 | $10, not for $10 million, not anything. Fogel's film exposes how Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman's regime not only killed |
0:38.8 | Khashoggi, but brutally persecutes other dissidents and their families. The filmmaker |
0:43.5 | explains why his project had streamers and studios running scared. Eventually, indie film champion |
0:50.0 | and Briarcliffe Entertainment CEO Tom Ortenberg stood up. The dissident made it to theaters and now to streaming. |
0:57.0 | Ortenberg also joins us today. |
0:59.6 | But first on the news banter, Trump dumped from Facebook. |
1:03.2 | But is that enough? |
1:04.2 | Stay tuned. |
1:04.9 | It's the business from KCRW. |
1:14.1 | I am joined by my colleague in banter. |
1:14.7 | Matt Bellany. |
1:15.3 | Hello, Matt. |
1:16.0 | Hi there. |
1:19.1 | So things have been pretty crazy. |
1:22.4 | At the moment, still are pretty crazy as we are talking. |
1:25.9 | We saw this past week the assault on the Capitol. |
1:30.8 | And we subsequently saw Facebook and Twitter dealing with many, many calls. And this is hardly the first time that there had been calls |
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