Texas Monthly.

Hey there, I'm John Spong with Texas Monthly magazine, and this is One by Willie,

a podcast in which I talk each week to one notable Willie Nelson fan about one Willie song that they really

love. This week, we talked to singer, songwriter, and record producer Bruce Robinson, who's probably

best known for writing Angry All the Time for Tim and Faith, Traveling Soldier for the Chicks,

and Wrapped for George Strait, who's going to talk about one of the

cornerstone songs off of phases and stages, walking.

Bruce calls it one of the songs that taught him just how sophisticated country music can be,

and it's one that his parents played constantly when he was a little kid growing up in

Bandera, Texas.

Now, Bandera is, of course, a small country town that looms

large in Willie folklore, the place he first moved his family in band when he finally fled

Nashville. We'll get into Bruce's memories of just how weird a fit that was. And a spoiler alert,

Willie didn't bring the hippies and rednecks together until he got to Austin a year later.

And then we'll go into Bruce's own Masterful Willie Tributes, the 2001 song, What Would Willi Do?

And his star-studded, 2003 live album recorded in luck one night in Texas, with a meaty cameo appearance by none other than Texas monthly columnist

Dave Courtney, aka the Texanist.

So let's do it.

These are phases and stages, circles and cycles and cycles and scenes that we've all seen before

let me tell you some more All right, so where we always start is, of course, what's so great about the song?

You want to talk about walking off of phases and stages, but can we talk about it independently of the album?

I mean, what's so great about walking just on its own terms as a song?

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