Bruce Friedrich On The Meatless Meat Moonshot

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.8 • 12.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2021

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Summary

Imagine a day when alternative protein is no longer alternative. Welcome to the moonshot for meatless meat. When it comes to meat, the news is both good and bad. On the one hand, alternative protein innovation is at an all-time high, with ever more options stocked at grocery stores across the country. However, despite the cultural ascension and mainstreaming of all things vegan & plant-based, the unfortunate reality is that globally, meat consumption is actually the highest it’s ever been. And according to the UN, global meat production is projected to double by 2050. So what gives? To address this conundrum and bring us up to speed on the cultivated and plant-based meat state of affairs, I’m once again joined by my friend & resident expert on all things meatless meat, Bruce Friedrich—returning for his third appearance on the show (catch RRP 286 & 402 if you missed them). Graduating magna cum laude from Georgetown Law with additional graduate degrees from Johns Hopkins and the London School of Economics, Bruce is the founder & president of The Good Food Institute, an international non-profit focused on facilitating the reimagination of meat production. He is also a TED Fellow, a Y Combinator alumnus, and a popular food innovation speaker at places like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, and MIT. Bruce has been profiled in The New York Times and many other prominent outlets and has penned op-eds for The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Los Angeles Times, Wired, and many other publications. Today we pick up where we left off almost three years ago to assess the current state of the union on all things alternative protein. We discuss advances in both plant-based and cultivated meat. We review how the latest technological breakthroughs in fermentation, 3D printing and funghi (or mycoprotein) harvesting are changing the game. And we cover the political and regulatory landscape that frames the alternative protein movement—and the policy changes we need to realize a better food system for all. In addition we discuss the many problems solved by a global pivot to alternative proteins—including zoonotic disease, greenhouse gas emissions, resource reduction, and animal suffering. Overall, this is an optimistic forecast of food system innovation—how technology, urgency, and popular demand are rapidly converging to create healthy, sustainable, and compassionate solutions to help solve our current food, health, and environmental crises. To read more click here. You can also watch our exchange on YouTube. And as always, the podcast streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. As you will soon discover, Bruce is super smart. This episode is our smartest yet. Enjoy! Peace + Plants, Rich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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0:32.0	The UN Environment Program last July released a report preventing the next pandemic is the title of it.
0:40.0	They listed the seven most likely causes of the next pandemic.
0:44.0	The first one is just meat eating, period, because the more animals that you have, the more likely they are to have a zoonotic disease.
0:52.0	That transfers to human beings. Boom. We have the next COVID. Could be more transmissible and it could be more deadly.
0:58.0	Their second most likely cause of the next pandemic is industrial animal agriculture.
1:04.0	Because the more you are raising those animals intensively, that compromises their immune systems and makes, you know, step one even more likely.
1:12.0	And then the way that we are using land and encroaching on wild animals, I think is number four.
1:18.0	And climate change is number seven. So you're literally looking at the two most likely causes.
1:24.0	The possibility of your food causing antibiotic resistance or the next pandemic goes from significant to zero if you go with plant-based and cultivated meat.
1:34.0	And then finally climate change. It's a fraction of the climate change.
1:38.0	You eliminate nitrous oxide from manure decomposition and you eliminate methane from ruminant digestion.
1:46.0	And because it's fewer stages of production, you also eliminate a lot of the CO2.
1:51.0	Nitrous oxide is 300 times as powerful as a greenhouse gas, methane is 20 times as powerful as carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas.
1:59.0	And far less land. So those are the three things we talk about the most.
2:04.0	And of course for people like you and me, the fact that it eliminates the factory farming as well as also a pretty big advantage.
2:11.0	That's Bruce Friedrich. And this is the Retro-Podcast.
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