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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

This week’s Ruminant is dedicated to the devoted gnostic scholars of “Trumpism,” the Holy Grail of embattled conservative intellectuals and political toadies alike. Jonah also addresses the new elephant in the room: Project 2025 (consider our fact check on the discourse as mandatory reading). Blame the early hour, but Jonah also finds himself regressing to his days of media criticism, and even doubles down with media criticism-criticism. For dessert, he responds to comments on his debate with Niall Ferguson. The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including Jonah’s G-File newsletter, weekly livestreams, and other members-only content—click here. —Eliana Johnson: “Meet the Harvard whiz kid who wants to explain Trumpism” —The Dispatch fact-checks Project 2025 —Wednesday’s G-File —Jonah debates Niall Ferguson on The Remnant: Is America a late-stage Soviet country? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Oh, Ladies and gentlemen, uh, can I please have your attention. Can I please have your attention? Go Joff
0:25.0	Ginkin!
0:29.0	Greetings your listeners, this is Jonah Goberg host to the Remnant podcast brought to you by
0:32.1	the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.
0:34.2	So it is very early Saturday, Friday, Friday morning, I'm on vacation, or I'm on a working vacation I guess because I'm working.
0:45.0	And I got to record the dispatch podcast in about an hour.
0:57.4	We decided to, normally we recorded Thursday mornings but because of Biden's press conference we thought it would be prudent to wait until
1:02.2	afterwards in case major news changed everything.
1:07.0	But since that's going to be the bulk of the dispatch podcast conversation
1:15.0	with a special guest by the way, I'll keep you in suspense.
1:20.0	I'm not going to spend too much time on that, at least I don't think I am given that I'm I don't know what I'm talking about beyond it but
1:42.0	look I on it, but, look, I think it was in some ways the worst of all possible outcomes last night. The people who already wanted him to go were not reassured. The people who wanted him to stay on the ticket were reassured, are most of them, I should say.
2:05.0	I mean, for all I know, there were people on the bubble
2:07.3	who were pushed one way or the other by it.
2:08.9	But for the most part, I think it helped,
2:12.1	Biden helped himself. He did not have a terrible night.
2:15.0	It wasn't good, right? I mean, we're creating all this stuff on such a low bar for both
2:19.5	Biden and Trump, but he beat expectations and he didn't have a major senior event.
2:30.0	But he had a bunch of medium, not even minor, medium senior events that will play in clips on TV and on YouTube and on Tik-Tock for a long time.
2:42.2	I mean he called before the press conference,
2:45.0	he called, you know, Zellinsky Vladimir Putin,
2:49.7	which is not great.
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