Brown v May: When England Teammates Clash

The Good, The Bad & The Rugby

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🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Former England teammates Mike Brown and Jonny May join the dream team for a revealing chat on the intense world of professional rugby. Brown, fresh from retirement and a corporate career change, offers candid insights into the psychological toll of the professional game, and the lads debate contrasting experiences under Eddie Jones. May and Brown also reveal the ups and downs of their volatile relationship on and off the field, including a training ground injury that ended in 11 stitches. Finally, the pair get stuck into an England selection debate ahead of the Autumn Nations Series. Lewis Moody gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/lewis-moody-fundraising-appeal Tour Tickets: https://myticket.co.uk/artists/the-good-the-bad-the-rugby GBR Book: https://www.waterstones.com/book/reloaded-the-good-the-bad-and-the-rugby/james-haskell/mike-tindall/9780008786373 00:00 🎬 Introduction: Welcome to the Good, The Bad, and The Rugby 01:01 🗣️ Fan Feedback on the previous episode with Peter O'Mahony 03:42 🏉 Mike Brown joins: Life after rugby 05:00 💔 The devastating news of Lewis Moody's MND diagnosis 09:54 🎉 Celebrating Mike Brown's career 15:47 🎤 Brown's bizarre interview for Southampton FC Academy Director 15:09 🐅 Joining Leicester Tigers: the nervous week's trial 21:41 ⚡The Eddie Jones Experience 44:00 🚗 Continental Tyres Grip Strength Challenge 45:22🤝 The Brown-May Relationship 52:43 🔄 The England Selection Debate: Ford, The Smiths, or Farrell? 01:04:16 😡 The "Mr. Angry" Persona, clashes with Eddie and Ben Te'o 01:12:47 😬 Brown's "awful" start to international rugby Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Are you nervous, Micah?
0:00.9	Yes.
0:01.3	Yeah.
0:01.9	Mr. Angry was the persona.
0:03.9	I just cared a lot and I played with a chip on my shoulder and I wanted to always prove people wrong. If you saw Eddie now, hug, handshake, head down, walk by. What I would say about Eddie, he was an absolute fucking genius in terms of tactical, tactically, technically. What was your relationship like playing together? Ups and downs. We had a rough relationship, didn't we? Can't get in trouble anymore, can I?
0:22.3	So I'm not very good at faking it, so I would struggle. relationship like playing together. Ups and downs. We had a rough relationship, didn't we?
0:21.0	Got to get in trouble anymore, can I?
0:22.2	So I'm not very good at faking it, so I would struggle. First carry I made, and I'd hit this and I called for it. I got it, I was like, this is my moment. See this is a massive gap. Boom. It was like literally hitting an oak wardrobe. But it was like, it was back his both.
0:36.3	Welcome to International Rugby.
0:37.6	I need a piss now.
0:39.1	And a shit. It was like, it was back as both. Welcome to International Rugby.
0:37.6	I need a piss now.
0:38.8	And a shit.
0:41.4	Alex Payne trying to keep the side going forward.
0:44.2	Haskell takes it on now with just relentless chat.
0:47.1	And there's Tyndall to add the finishing touch of glamour and World Cup winning stories.
0:51.4	A dominant display by the good, the bad and the rugby.
0:55.2	Hello, Dream Team. Welcome along to episode two of season six of the good, the bad and the rugby.
0:59.7	What a start. We had to the new season, Peter O'Mani last week, 250,000 long-form views and listens.
1:07.7	Welcome back, everybody. Great to have you with us. Your likes and positive comments make an
1:10.8	enormous difference to team morale. We'll ignore the negatives, but we had some very nice feedback
1:16.3	change. Well, you don't ignore them, which is the most... I like sentiment. You go in and check them out and then
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