I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of

the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present.

Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right

now. Today on Super Soul Conversations, 91-year-old author, scholar, and Benedictine Monk, brother

David Stindelrost is beloved the world over for his enduring message about gratefulness. It's

the true source of lasting joy. Today, brother Stindelrost invites us to embrace the spiritual

practice of grateful living. I know the study of gratitude has been your life's work, and

as we now in the world are searching for ways to find common ground, you believe that all

humans share the same yearning. What is that yearning? The yearning is basically, I think,

all humans would agree to be happy, to be happy, to be joyful, and they make a little distinction

between happy and joyful, because we say we want to be happy, but we want to be happy

with the happiness that lasts. Yes. And we are well aware that happiness just doesn't last.

Right. And it's never that kind of last. So we have to find the happiness that lasts, and

that happiness I call joy. And we can't find that, because we can't find that joy even

in the midst of unhappiness. Yes. So for you is gratefulness a practice? Yes. Or just

a way of being. It's a way of being. Yeah. But the practice is your way of being. It's

a way of living. That's why lately I talk less about gratitude, but more about grateful

living. Because when you speak about gratitude, people often think, oh yeah, when something

happens, then of course I'm grateful, but grateful living is to be grateful at all times,

at all times, no matter what happens. And that means reaping the joy that comes from

gratefulness at all times, also in the midst of suffering. And so what do you think the essence

of grateful living is? If I want to live more gratefully in my life, which I'm telling you,

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