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Hot and Bothered

Bros

Hot and Bothered

Not Sorry Productions

Society & Culture, Feminism, Books, Relationships, Arts, Intersectionality

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Vanessa Zoltan and Daniel Schroeder meet at New York's LGBTQ+ Museum to record this week’s episode of Hot and Bothered, all about Bros.


This week we discuss the political messaging of the movie, it's promotion and marketing strategy, and whether a rom-com can truly be queered. We finish the episode by calling Joseph Gamble to talk to us about reading historical figures as queer.



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0:00.0

Today we are continuing our exploration of queer love stories.

0:06.5

In 2022, you couldn't go anywhere in a major city and not see a poster of two white men with

0:14.4

their hands on each other's denim-clad asses.

0:18.6

This is because the film we are discussing today, br Bros, while it only had a $22 million production

0:25.0

budget, had a marketing budget of $33.6 million.

0:32.0

The movie, co-written, produced by, and starring Billy Eichner, was a critical success and a box office

0:39.8

failure. Brose was, according to Slate, the first gay romantic comedy co-written by and starring

0:48.0

a gay man to be backed by a major studio, Universal, and receive a wide theatrical distribution.

0:56.8

The film is about Bobby Lieber, who hosts a very successful podcast called The Eleventh Brick at Stonewall.

1:05.8

Because we all know a butch lesbian or a trans woman of color probably through the first brick at Stonewall,

1:13.9

but it was a cis white gay man who threw the 11th brick. The movie starts with a wink about its protagonist. The opening bit is him winning an award

1:20.2

for Best White Sis Gay Man. While accepting the award, Bobby announces a career shift. He's accepted a position as the director

1:30.1

and curator for the upcoming national LGBTQ plus history museum in Manhattan, which means that

1:38.6

his identity is now wrapped up in whether or not he can make enough money for the museum to be a success.

1:46.4

For the rest of the film, Bobby will hold anxiety about making the museum both good and financially

1:52.9

viable.

1:54.0

And we can easily imagine this as an apt metaphor for Eichner's feelings about bros.

2:00.5

We need to get people to rethink history through a queer prism, not comfort them with

2:03.9

another fucking gay wedding, all right?

2:05.7

It's a museum.

2:06.5

It's not Schitt's Creek.

2:07.5

Oh, I like Schitt's Creek.

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