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PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

Brooks and Capehart on what's next as ICE leaves Minnesota

PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

PBS NewsHour

News, Politics

4.51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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David Brooks of The Atlantic and Jonathan Capehart of MS NOW join William Brangham to discuss the week in politics, including the Trump administration pulling ICE back from Minnesota, European leaders reckoning with a new world order and parts of the U.S. government are about to shut down, again. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0

The Trump administration pulls ice back from Minnesota.

0:03.9

European leaders reckon with a new world order,

0:07.2

and parts of the US government are about to shut down again.

0:10.9

It is time for the analysis of Brooks and Capehart.

0:13.7

That's the Atlantics, David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MS.

0:17.7

Now, good evening, gentlemen.

0:19.4

Nice to see you on Valentine's Day Eve.

0:23.0

I can feel the romance.

0:26.0

This is going to turn out quite differently.

0:30.0

President Trump put, I'm talking about Minnesota, put his border czar in charge of what was going on there,

0:36.9

and Tom Holman said, okay, we're going to now start to pull this back. David, what do you make of this development? Well, when Tom Homan is the reasonable and cuddly one, then you know we've come a long way. And, you know, I think it's partly because of the awfulness of those videos and the killings, but it's

0:54.4

partly because of citizen power.

0:56.3

You know, we've been talking a lot over the months about a civic movement.

1:00.1

And the people of Minneapolis in bitter, cold weather, behaved in a self-disciplined,

1:05.6

humane way that appealed to people across the political spectrum and in a disciplined way.

1:11.6

And they turned up the heat and they put the regime in an impossible situation,

1:16.6

either behave brutally and generate more hostility or lose control the streets.

1:21.6

And that's what a civic movement needs to do.

1:23.6

Put the pressure on the government and expose the moral distance between one

1:29.1

side and the other.

1:31.0

And I was with a historian yesterday and she said, learn from the civil rights win.

1:35.2

Everybody should be studied in the civil rights wins.

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