It was a week that saw Donald Trump become the first former American president to be convicted of a felony.

We turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Kapart.

That's New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Kapart, associate editor for the Washington Post.

Thank you so much for being here.

Hey, Jeff.

So I'd like to begin by asking you both to reflect on the significance of this moment.

A former and potentially future president found guilty

on all 34 counts in his criminal hush money trial who upon his sentencing on July 11th

will officially become a convicted felon under New York state law.

Jonathan, you have the first word tonight.

Well, yesterday was a surprising day just because at one moment we're told the judge is going to let the jury go at

4.30 and then the next minute we have a verdict. Yesterday was a very solemn day.

Whether you like the guy or not, the idea, the fact that a former president of the United

States was found guilty on all counts unanimously by a jury of his peers and that same person is the

presumptive nominee for president of the Republican Party.

It just just for the office, it was solemn,

I think for where we are as a country.

It was a solemn day because in the before times he would no longer be the candidate that another

more upright more reflective of the party and the country would become the nominee.

And I know he's perfectly reflective of the party as it is now, but I'm talking about the

before time.

And so I was elated because he's being held accountable.

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