Brooks and Capehart on Trump and Vance clashing with Pope Leo
PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart
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🗓️ 17 April 2026
⏱️ 11 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | President Trump claims that Iran has agreed to everything in talks with the U.S., including |
| 0:06.0 | suspending its nuclear program. |
| 0:08.2 | That comes at the end of a week in which he feuded with the Pope, and two lawmakers suddenly |
| 0:12.8 | resigned from Congress. |
| 0:14.3 | For all of that and more, we turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart. |
| 0:18.0 | That is the Atlantic's David Brooks and Jonathan K part of MS now. |
| 0:22.1 | It's great to see you both. Let's start overseas because there are a couple big headlines with |
| 0:26.5 | the wars there. Jonathan, as you saw a ceasefire earlier in the week with Lebanon to stop the fighting |
| 0:31.4 | between Israel and Khazpola. And then the U.S. and Iran announcing the Strait of Hormuz is open, |
| 0:35.9 | though evidence is suggesting otherwise. |
| 0:38.2 | There's also this that the president says Iran says it's going to suspend its nuclear program, |
| 0:42.9 | it's going to stop backing Hezbollah and Hamas, continuing to say the war is nearly over. |
| 0:49.0 | Do you believe that's happening? |
| 0:51.5 | No. I mean, this has been my issue with this war from the very beginning. I have a hard time trusting |
| 1:00.0 | what the administration says and certainly what the president says just given how he brought the country into this war to begin with. |
| 1:09.1 | And we have seen him make very definitive statements only to see action on the ground |
| 1:16.6 | say otherwise. |
| 1:18.6 | And also, I can't get over the fact that all of these things that we're talking about, |
| 1:22.6 | the Strait of Hormuz has been reopened. |
| 1:24.6 | Well, it was open before the war even started. |
| 1:29.1 | Or things being talked about the plutonium. |
| 1:33.2 | Well, there was an agreement. |
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