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PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

Brooks and Capehart on the response to the Minnesota ICE shooting

PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

PBS NewsHour

News, Politics

4.51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MS NOW join Geoff Bennett to discuss the week in politics, including the fatal shooting of a U.S. citizen by an ICE agent, the removal of Nicolas Maduro and fresh signals of the Trump administration's emerging vision of U.S leadership. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0

This week saw a fatal shooting of a U.S. citizen by an ICE agent and fresh signals of the Trump administration's emerging vision of U.S. leadership.

0:10.0

Time now for the analysis of Brooks and Capehart. That's New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MS Now. It has been a weak gentleman in seats.

0:20.0

Good to see you both. So Jonathan, this week marked a grim turning point as an ICE agent, as you both well know,

0:26.6

shot and killed a U.S. citizen during an enforcement operation as part of President Trump's expanded immigration raids.

0:32.6

Your reaction to all that's unfolded?

0:34.6

It's a tragedy. Excuse me, it's a tragedy that's been unfolding in other communities around the country.

0:44.3

I think Governor Walts, Minnesota Governor Walts was correct when he said to the President,

0:50.3

you know, these federal agents, these ICE agents, they're not making us safer.

0:56.5

You are making the community, our citizens, more afraid.

1:01.4

And why shouldn't they be afraid?

1:03.6

Not just because of what happened to Renee Good, but the way they've been operating, not

1:09.5

just in Minneapolis, but in other cities across the country.

1:12.7

Unmarked cars, unidentifiable, masked.

1:17.0

People don't know who these people are who are lunging at them on streets,

1:21.5

lunging at them in their cars.

1:23.5

And so I think that the indignation, or is I, the righteous indignation that we have, we

1:29.3

have heard from state and local officials, from the governor, most definitely from the mayor,

1:34.3

I think is warranted.

1:35.3

And anyone giving Mayor Fry, Minneapolis Mayor Frye, the blues for being very explicit and what he wants

1:42.3

ICE officers to do, how he feels about this, which is more

1:50.5

unconscionable, him dropping the F bomb or having a person who lives in his city killed by

1:57.8

federal agents, no one asked for. The mayor didn't ask for them. The governor didn't ask for them.

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