It's been a busy week in politics in Washington and across the country to delve deeper into

all of it.

We turn now to the analysis of Brooks and K-PART.

That's New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan K-PART, associate editor for

The Washington Post.

And welcome to you both.

It's great to see you.

David, let's start with this news.

We learned today about the report from the special grand jury in Georgia that basically

shows there were 21 other people they recommended be indicted that the DA there, Fannie Willis

decided not to indict.

The fact that 21 Fulton County residents looked all this evidence four months, heard from

all these witnesses, said, yes, we think these people, three senators, a former senior White

House official, should be indicted.

What does that say to you about the strength and the scope of that case?

Well, I think it may be a strong case.

I imagine it's a pretty strong case against the indicted 19.

But back many, many years ago, when Rudy Giuliani was still a semi-normal person, he was

inditing people on Wall Street.

And he used the right, the RICO statute to roll up lots and lots of people.

And his critics said RICO is just badly structured and that you can get, you can roll up masses

of people whether they're really involved in the core conspiracy or not.

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