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PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

Brooks and Capehart on some Republican lawmakers' defiance of Trump

PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

PBS NewsHour

News, Politics

4.51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2026

⏱️ 13 minutes

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David Brooks of The Atlantic and Jonathan Capehart of MS NOW join Amna Nawaz to discuss the week in politics, including Republican defiance of President Donald Trump and fresh scandals in a key Senate race. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Now to discuss Republican defiance of President Trump, fresh scandals in a key Senate race, and much more, we turn to Brooks and K-Part.

0:08.6

That's the Atlantic's David Brooks and Jonathan K. Part of MS now. Good to see you both.

0:13.0

Good to see you.

0:13.6

We saw something this week from Republicans. We haven't really seen much of yet. It's fair to say.

0:17.8

It's a willingness to break with and defy President Trump. We saw it with

0:21.5

the $1.8 billion anti-weaponization funds. Several lawmakers opposed it. The acting attorney general

0:26.9

said it's not moving forward. We saw it with opposition to the billion dollars for the White

0:30.7

House ballroom that was pulled from a spending package. And we saw it with the war powers

0:34.6

resolution for Iran. Four Republicans joined Democrats to pass that in the House.

0:40.5

Jonathan, is this a trend?

0:42.6

Is it a shift?

0:43.4

Is it just a series of events that aren't related at all?

0:46.5

There are a series of events, but what I'm wondering is, will there be more events

0:51.8

that allows what's being called the Yolo Caucus to flex its muscles?

0:57.8

I mean, it's amazing what happens to the spine when you lose your primary race

1:03.6

because the president of your own party supported someone against you.

1:07.2

And I'm thinking of Senator Cassidy.

1:10.4

I'm thinking of Senator Cornyn, who were both defeated in the primaries. And I'm thinking of Senator Cassidy. I'm thinking of Senator Cornyn, who were both

1:12.7

defeated in the primaries. And you see Republicans, congressional Republicans, finally deciding,

1:20.4

you know what? I've got to push back simply because what he's doing is wrong, but also

1:26.1

I want to get a little bit of revenge. David, how are you looking at it? Yeah, I once had a vacation in Belize, and there was an earthquake off the coast, and I'm running around saying, there's going to be a tsunami, there's going to be a tsunami. And when the tsunami came, it was two inches. So that's the kind of tsunami we're seeing. A two-inch tsunami from Republicans, only four of them.

1:46.0

But it's a good sign.

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