With just days to go until the Iowa caucuses, presidential politics are taking center

stage.

Let's discuss that and more with Brooks and Kapart.

That's New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Kapart, associate editor for the Washington Post.

It's good to see you both.

Let's talk a bit about Iowa, shall we?

David, the latest poll of Iowa voters found that among Republicans, former President Donald Trump has a dominant

lead, that hasn't changed.

But this is the first poll to find that Nicki Haley is now opening a real lead over Ron

DeSantis.

She has 20% to his 13% and her lead is outside of the polls

margin of error. How do you interpret these numbers?

Disasterist for Iran-Disantis. I mean he's really bet a lot on Iowa he's said to have an amazing ground game he's

invested zillions of dollars in Iowa and if he's down at 13% I don't see how the

campaign really goes forward he said it'll go to South Carolina, maybe skip New

Hampshire. But I just don't see how he recovers from her showing that bad

when he's invested this much time and effort. As for Nicky Haley, very good number for her.

She's kind of laid in the game, less organized on the ground.

On the other hand, there is a ceiling on her.

And that's because if you look at who's voting for her, it's college educated Republicans.

And this is a working class party, and she has done very poorly trying to crack into that

working class group.

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