To discuss this week's news, both here and abroad, we turn now to the analysis of Brooks

and K-PART, that is New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan K-PART, associate

editor for the Washington Post.

Good to see you, though.

Let's begin with the news of the day that the Biden administration's decision to send

these cluster munitions to Ukraine as it defends itself from Russia, just as President

Biden prepares to head to the NATO summit next week.

Jonathan, we heard earlier some of the debates about why people think it's a good idea,

but also the huge risk it poses to civilian populations.

Is this the Biden administration sacrificing the moral high ground for a battlefield

advantage right now?

This is war.

And President Zelensky, Ukrainian President Zelensky, is fighting or forced to fight a Russian

president who's been ruthless, bombing civilian targets from almost minute one with Zelensky

pleading with the United States and the West, please send tanks, please send planes, please

send us the most advanced military equipment you can give us, because we, we need it.

And so, you know, sending cluster munitions is, you know, I think probably crosses a line

for a lot of people, but when you are the Western Alliance and the big mantra is, this is

authoritarianism versus democracy, and democracy must win, well, democracy has to have all the

tools possible to make it possible.

David, the U.S. itself stopped using these back in 2003, right?

What does it say to you about how they see the war right now?

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