For more on how last night's debate is shaking up the race for the White House, we turn to the analysis of Brooks and Atkins store.

That's New York Times columnist David Brooks and Boston Globe columnist Kimberly Atkins store.

Jonathan Kapart is away.

Great to have you here.

Good to see you both.

Let's jump right into the debate analysis.

And David, you saw Laura's reporting earlier

about some of the panic, as she phrased it among Democrats right now

based on what you saw is that panic warranted yeah I think so you know I went

back today and looked at the 2020 presidential debates with Biden and he looks like a very different person and so this defeat by Biden was not like Obama's defeat with Mitt Romney in 2012 where he had a bad day.

This is about fundamental, you know, with itness ability and so it certainly did raise

the possibility that this guy can't just beat Joe Biden. To win an election you have to have a

strategy and Biden has gone through several

what I thought were plausible strategies.

Big plausible strategy number one.

Use fiscal stimulus to really turbocharge the election.

You get these working class voters coming to your side.

Didn't work.

Second, really create a positive economy,

so everybody's prospering.

Inflation.

And the third strategy was the State of the Union address really worked for Joe Biden,

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