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You testified that you trusted your sister after the discovery of Jay-Jay and Tyley. Did

that change? Yes.

I felt like too, and my trust in my sister was broken.

I'm Jonathan Vigliate. We're starting this week's special episode of 48 hours with

emotional testimony from Lori Velo de Belzister, Summer Shiflett. We're in the fourth week

of testimony in Lori de Belz's trial for the murders of her two youngest children, Joshua

Jay-Jay Velo and Tyley Ryan. She's accused, along with her husband Chad Debel of Jay-Jay

and Tyley's murders, as well as the murder of Chad's late wife Tammy Debel. They've

both pleaded not guilty, and Chad Debel's trial will occur at a later date. The 48 hours

team has been reviewing hours and hours of court audio, bringing you the latest highlights

from each week of the trial. We'll get into testimony from both Lori Velo de Belzister,

as well as Tammy Debel's sister Samantha Guilliam. We'll also learn more about what might

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