Hi, I'm Jonathan Caphart and welcome to Cape Bob.

If the name Broderick Johnson sounds familiar to you,

it's probably because he was a past guest on the podcast.

Okay, maybe it's because he was one of the most powerful people in the Obama White House and the man

tapped by then President Obama to helm the My Brothers Keeper Task Force.

Well now it's the My Brothers Keeper Alliance, it's under the Obama Foundation, and Broderick is chair of the board.

Find out what they're up to, what Broderick thinks of those serving in the Trump administration,

and what he thinks about that epic Tanahasi Coates piece on

the first white president right now.

Broderick Johnson welcome back to Cape Up this time as a civilian.

Thanks, great to be back as a civilian.

How does it feel to be in the private sector now?

Life is great.

You know you have a little bit more time,

more time to spend with family, a little more income,

life is good.

A little more income. A little more income, but life is very good and so now you're in the

private sector you're at this big law firm can even talk about the kinds of things you're doing now or at least

talk about how they're different from what you what you did when you were

helping to run the United States of America. Well this is and this is my second go-around at Brian Cave, so it's great to come back here.

It's a huge firm with a thousand lawyers.

My main focus is on public policy and government relations.

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