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Cold War Conversations - "vivid & compelling" The NY Times

BRIXMIS, the defence of Cold War Berlin & Rudolf Hess (21)

Cold War Conversations - "vivid & compelling" The NY Times

Ian Sanders

History, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.8865 Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2018

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to Episode 21 of Cold War Conversations. Now I am very excited by today’s guest and we have a packed episode for you. Nigel Dunkley MBE is a former Royal Scots Dragoon Guard who served in Berlin with a squadron of Chieftain tanks tasked with defending the British Sector including the Brandenburg Gate should the Cold War have turned hot. Nigel also performed intelligence gathering duties in the former East Germany with BRIXMIS which was an intelligence organisation worked throughout the Cold War years from 1946 to 1990 gathering intelligence in the former Soviet Occupation Zone of East Germany on the threat posed to the West and NATO by the 20 Soviet and 6 East German Army Divisions and their Air Forces deployed there. In the 1980s Nigel also interpreted for Hitler’s Deputy Rudolf Hess in Spandau Prison, Berlin and provided some fascinating insight into the character of Hess. Later in his military career he was awarded the MBE and Bronze Star Medal for his services with the US 1st Cavalry Division during Operation Desert Storm. Nigel was also Chief of Staff at the Royal Armoured Corp Centre at Bovington, ending his army career as Defence Attache at the British Embassy in Berlin.  I am delighted and honoured to welcome Nigel Dunkley.  Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Cold War Conversations, the home of real stories of the Cold War.

0:07.9

This is Cold War Conversations. If you're new here, you've come to the right place to listen to first-hand Cold War history accounts.

0:18.0

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0:23.1

Cold Warconversations.com.

0:27.4

Nigel Dunkley MBE is a former Royal Scotscats dragoon guard who served in Berlin with a squadron

0:34.0

of chieftain tanks tasked with defending the British sector,

0:38.0

including the Brandenburg Gate, should the Cold War have turned hot.

0:42.2

Nigel also performed intelligence gathering duties in the former East Germany with Bricksmiths,

0:48.4

which was an intelligence organisation that worked throughout the Cold War years,

0:53.2

gathering intelligence in the former

0:55.2

Soviet occupation zone of East Germany, on the threat posed to the West and NATO by the 20

1:02.0

Soviet and six East German army divisions and their air forces deployed there.

1:08.5

In the 1980s, Nigel also interpreted for Hitler's deputy Rudolf Hess,

1:14.6

who was being held in Spandau Prison in Berlin, and provides some fascinating insight into the

1:20.8

character of Hess. Later in his military career, Nigel was awarded the MBE and the bronze star medal for his services

1:29.8

with the US First Cavalry Division during Operation Desert Storm.

1:35.0

Nigel was also Chief of Staff at the Royal Armoured Corps Centre at Bovington, ending his

1:41.4

army career as defence attach at the British embassy in Berlin.

1:46.2

I am delighted and honoured to welcome Nigel Dunclay.

1:51.5

Do you just want to give me a brief background on your military career up to Berlin?

1:59.0

Well, that wouldn't take long because I went to Berlin three times in uniform.

2:05.9

Once as a lieutenant, once as a captain and once as a major.

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