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The Dispatch Podcast

Brittle Regimes

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Steve and Jonah join Mike as he takes over the host’s chair in this week’s Dispod. The trio discuss China’s version of manifest destiny and: -Biden’s economic outreach -Big dollar donors desperately scanning the Republican field -Kari Lake being a loser (and proud of it) -Mob rule of institutions -Vivek: worth voters' time? Show Notes: -Jonah's China piece for The Dispatch -Scott Lincicome’s newsletter on China -Poll: Georgia Republicans are unusually skeptical of Trump’s 2020 actions -David Brooks NYT column Nikki’s the one -Steve's Animal Spirits moment -"Not Donald Trump" NBC Poll Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dispatch podcast. I'm not Sarah Isger. I'm Mike Warren. That is Jonah Goldberg.

0:08.3

That is Steve Hayes. We are going to be talking about China and the Biden administration's efforts

0:16.8

to change that relationship. We'll be talking of course about elections. We're now a week

0:21.3

out from that first debate. Has anything changed in the Republican field? And we'll be talking

0:28.0

about, yes, impeachment and what is going to happen in Congress with Biden? All that coming up.

0:50.0

All right, China. So Gina Imondo, the Commerce Secretary in the Biden administration, just

0:55.7

wrapped up a three day trip in China. She's the fourth Biden cabinet member in the last couple

1:03.7

of months to visit China. Sort of an attempt to reset relationships between the United States

1:11.7

government and Beijing. And this is coming at a time when China's economy is kind of going through

1:18.6

a struggle. Jonah, you wrote your column this week about what's going on with China's economy

1:27.2

and whether or not the rest of the world should care, should, you know, does this matter?

1:35.1

What's going on? What are your thoughts at the moment on what's going on in China and how the

1:40.3

Biden administration is trying to navigate it? Yeah, so I mean, there are a lot of different things

1:44.9

going on. I did not write about the Gina Imondo Biden outreach stuff too much. But China's economy

1:52.1

has, the string has run out, it seems, on it. Now, that doesn't mean it's going to implode and

1:58.2

there'll be halter skelter and fighting in the streets and and the regime will be overthrown.

2:03.0

As much as I would like to see that last part happen, the big, the big picture stuff is that

2:08.7

Xi Jinping has basically decided that the the era that Deng Xiaoping ushered in where he said

2:17.8

it is glorious to get rich is over. And some of the things that Xi has done based on that conclusion

2:24.8

have been positive. He's, he did crack down a lot on corruption and there was a lot of corruption

2:29.0

and that's one of the reasons why he had a good reputation in China was that he was considered

2:33.5

somewhat incorruptible in part because his wife is this super rich pop star. But, but if it

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