Now, this is truly shocking stuff.

We're talking about war crimes committed by the British armed forces in Afghanistan,

and these war crimes are as grotesque and as shocking as it is imaginable to think up.

We're talking about the murder and the shooting of toddlers as they sleep.

We're talking about just vicious, depraved murder of innocent civilians.

And this has been covered up, and it tells us so much about the nature of not just British,

but Western foreign policy in the so-called war and terror and how this is

directly led to and facilitated, enabled Israel's live stream genocide of the Palestinian people.

It's so important we talk about this, and there's no better person to talk about this than

Ken Rogelay, who is the co-director of Transition Security Project.

That's a new research centre founded by Commonwealth and the Climate and Community Institute

to investigate the US and UK military industrial complexes.

Great to speak again.

Thanks very much for having me.

It's a big honour.

So what's happened this week?

So we've had the inquiry, the independent

inquiry on British war crimes in Afghanistan, has published some new evidence. And what we've

seen is really a change in reporting to some extent in the kind of scale of reporting because

it's coming from these high-prof profile whistleblowers who had senior roles

in the British Special Forces. And I think it's good for us to say that it's shocking in

one way because I think we should always be shocked by the kind of the level of brutality of these

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