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Things Police See: Firsthand Accounts

British Detective's Wildest Cases: Scotland Yard, Hostage Negotiations & First Murders

Things Police See: Firsthand Accounts

Steven D Gould

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.91.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2026

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Step inside the extraordinary career of Bob Lessemun, a retired British homicide detective whose work spanned England, the Turks & Caicos Islands, and the United States. In this rare and highly requested interview, Bob shares unbelievable stories from 32 years in policing, including his time with Scotland Yard, his transition to U.S. investigations, and his later work consulting on Guantanamo Bay and terrorism cases.

From his early days as a young "Bobby" on the streets of England to becoming one of Virginia's most experienced capital defense investigators, Bob delivers gripping, funny, and jaw‑dropping accounts of real police work.

Bob's latest book
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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is things police see.

0:04.6

First and accounts with your host, Steve Gold.

0:08.8

Welcome to the podcast, the interview's active retired police officers,

0:11.7

both their most intense, bizarre, and sometimes humorous moments on the job.

0:16.0

It is I, old ginger face, here with you, as always, guys.

0:19.2

Thank you for being here.

0:20.2

Thank you for joining us. Thank you for joining us.

0:21.9

Thank you to the Sergeant Steve YouTube channel watchers that are now over here being viewers and

0:27.1

also watchers on the YouTube channel. YouTube channel's got a nice bump from starting that other

0:31.3

channel. Love to see you guys here and I really, really appreciate that. Thank you to the new

0:35.8

Patreon supporters who are choosing a level over on Patreon and getting a shout-out.

0:40.6

Sergeant Above gets a shout-out, keeps the boat afloat, keeps the lights on, helps me pay the bills.

0:45.3

I truly appreciate that.

0:47.1

Thank you.

0:48.4

Today's episode is a much requested but seldom executed episode.

0:53.1

In the past, I have had on a fair amount of coppers from

0:58.2

other countries. This gentleman has actually done both. He's done investigations in both

1:03.7

in England and also in the U.S. He's a retired British homicide detective served 32 years for the Queen before becoming

1:12.8

detective superintendent in the Turks and Caicos Islands. He then immigrated to Virginia,

1:18.1

where he became the most experienced capital defense investigator. He finished his career as a

1:22.1

consultant to the U.S. military investigating Guantanamo Bay. Woo! I've got to get this out of my mouth. And other terrorist cases, he has written four books, which he calls the Plod series. Without further ado, let me bring on the great Bob Lessiman. Bob. Pleased to reach you. Yeah, good. Great to have you, man. Bob the Bobby, right? That's what you got all the time probably.

1:46.2

Yeah, I got a lot of times, yeah.

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