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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Britain’s hero, India’s war criminal: Churchill’s maddening legacy – with Ahir Shah

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Sir Winston Churchill’s legacy is often discussed – but is usually more complex than conversations suggest. Some call him one of the greatest Britons of all time – in India, however, he is regarded as one of the key villains of imperial rule. Ahir Shah is joined by historian Walter Reid, fellow of the Royal Historical Society and author of Fighting Retreat: Churchill and India, to discuss how Churchill is remembered. • “Churchill was racist because he constantly belittled India. ” – Walter Reid • “He believed India’s role in the Empire had to be protected at all costs.” – Walter Reid Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Written and presented by Ahir Shah. Producer: Eliza Davis Beard and Liam Tait. Audio production: Jade Bailey. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He was voted the greatest Britain ever in a national poll in 2002 and after his death

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even his great opponent Clement Attley paid tribute to him as the greatest Englishman of our time.

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In India, Churchill's legacy is more complex.

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Many regard him as the great villain of imperial rule,

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particularly with regard to his actions and inactions surrounding the Bengal famine of

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1943, for which he is often held as ultimately responsible.

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Perhaps particularly as the British Indian community in the 21st century gains greater significance and prominence, it's worth

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examining the question, what was Churchill's relationship with India and Indians?

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