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🗓️ 12 August 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to another one of my John Gaunt meets in the John Gaunt Gournt podcast series. |
0:06.6 | Today a man who I've interviewed so many times, I probably know him better than my wife. |
0:11.5 | I think I'll probably get on better with him than my wife as well, to be honest. |
0:15.1 | And his predecessor, Lord Green, of course I'm talking about Alp Mement, who is the main honcho of Migration Watch, |
0:24.4 | and he joins me now. Hi, Alp. Hello, John. Good to be back in touch. Yeah, great to have you |
0:32.2 | on board. Thank you very much indeed. Today, the headlines are screaming. Fifty odd thousand people have got into our country |
0:41.2 | illegally since Kyr Stama came to power. Where is he going wrong? What is he and a vet |
0:49.4 | Cooper doing wrong? Or has he just inherited a total basket case? |
1:02.6 | Where are they going right? I think would be the better question to ask because having said to us that when they were campaigning for the election last year that they were sorted out like that. |
1:12.6 | They would come in like Batman and Robin, really, to address every single immigration issue. |
1:19.6 | And they will solve the whole problem overnight. |
1:23.6 | Well, it's turned out for those who can remember, people like Abbott and Costello, |
1:32.2 | frankly, is more appropriate to the sort of performance that we've had from them. They've, |
1:39.4 | they've been very frustrating. First of all, Stama as a lawyer knew exactly what the legal position was. |
1:50.0 | Of course. |
1:51.0 | Yvette Cooper, she was very experienced. |
1:56.0 | She was the chair of the Home Affairs Committee for years. |
2:00.0 | So they knew exactly what the problem was. |
2:03.6 | And yet they came in and they were either misled, |
2:09.6 | deluded, or were lying. |
2:12.6 | Because what has happened and what the milestone that we reached yesterday, the day before, |
2:21.3 | that was inevitable. |
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