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Welcome to GrowCook Eat Arrange, the podcast of me, Sarah Raven, and various guests.

And today I have got a friend, actually, who is part of our kind of female gardener entrepreneur series.

And that is Arabella Preston.

And I'm just going to tell you a little bit about her before we go over to her.

I call her Ari and she moved to the kind of Kent Sussex border where I live probably about 10 years ago or maybe less.

And both her and her husband, Alex Preston, are very keen gardeners.

And so they came here on various courses and I got chatting to them and we've made friends since then.

And so I just thought it would be really lovely because genuinely, I think, the nicest products to have in one's life in terms of

beauty, but also wallowing in lovely bars and washing one's hands, are verdun and votary. So welcome,

Ari. It's lovely to have you on the podcast. And we'll talk about gardening, I promise,

rather than just delicious smells. Hi, Sarah. Thank you so much for having me. Tell us,

sort of from the start, I suppose, how you came to do first of all, Votery and then perhaps

we'll move on to Vodan after that. Indeed, they are two separate beings.

Votery came first and Votry is a skincare brand and I used to be a makeup artist.

So I worked as a makeup artist in my 20s and 30s when I was living in London and was always,

I was very lucky in how I trained.

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