A merry winterville, everybody. This is producer Ben and what you're about to hear in this special edition of the Totally Football Show podcast is a highly enlightening conversation between the Totally Football Show.com's editor Nick Miller and our very good friend Raffa Honigstein.

Now as you may know, Raffa wrote a biography of Yerken Klob and not just any biography, the definitive biography, called Bring the Noise, and he brought out a new edition recently

following Liverpool's Champions League victory last summer. What's in the updated version,

and why should you get it, even if, unlike me, you're not a fan of the six-time European champions.

Well, over to you, Nick Miller and Raffa Honnick-Stein.

I think until he had won something, there was a view outside Liverpool that, yeah, you know, it's interesting and stuff,

but why should I really engage with this guy? And I think as far as, you know, books and

biographies are concerned, you only really, as a neutral, probably will pick upies are concerned you only really as a neutral probably

will pick up a book if you think this is a winner and maybe I can learn something so a lot of the

success and a lot of the stuff that he had achieved at Mainzendorbman and was being foreshadowed

if you will for his time at Liverpool then basically came came to be and it makes for a nice arc because

before that the book the book and Klopp I guess they're the same in that sense they they promise a lot

and you think things might happen and they probably should and will happen but of course they

hadn't by the book the by the time the book came out in November 2017.

Now that they have, I think it makes you appreciate some of the earlier stuff slightly differently and you kind of see it in a different light and it has a nice sort of full, coming full cycle quality to it.

You mentioned the thing about him, you know, winning something

and in the new section that you do include a line

where he says he could write a book about winning semi-finals,

but, you know, no one would want to read that.

I mean, how much did that thing about him losing finals

way on his mind

and then having got over this hump of losing a number of finals?

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