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The future is open. Amos Farshot. Amos Farshot, thank you for being here.

Thank you for helping us report a story that is unlike any other story we have done on this show.

I was hesitant to do this episode, not because I didn't think it was, like, genuinely, genuinely fascinating,

but because I'm always mindful of the ways in which sometimes, you know, sports outlets,

they just want to shoehorn sports into, like, the serious news story.

Absolutely.

And sometimes it just feels both flimsy and forced in terms of the connection that they're drawing.

This one, though, does not feel that way to me.

I've reported on the way the sports and politics interact for a long time.

And just for me, as someone trying to understand the news,

you know, I've always felt like it's a way to get closer to the way people actually interact

with the news.

Yes.

With this one, with Israel and these soccer teams that we're going to talk about, it's

just what was on my mind.

Okay.

So this has been on my mind for a very long time now, this basic dilemma.

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