I'm gonna show you how great I am.

This, let's have Siamis Sala.

I just want to say from the bottom of me heart, I'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody.

Hello and welcome to How to Take Over the World.

This is Ben Wilson. Today's episode is a little bit different. I reached out to John

Turner, who's a biographer of Brigham Young, and asked him if he'd be willing to come on

the show because I thought it would be fun and interesting to get an outside perspective,

talk to someone who's really an expert and can get into some of these details about his life. In this conversation, we talk a lot of

big picture about Brigham Young's impact and legacy. And of course, we also talk about some of those

attributes that made him so special. What made Brigham Young, Brigham Young? What made him such a great

leader and able to hold this group of people together and establish such an interesting

and dynamic legacy. So I hope it's interesting to you. To be honest, it's a little bit

context heavy. If you don't know anything about Brigham Young other than what you've heard

in the podcast, it might be a little tough to follow, but I don't know. Maybe I'm not giving

myself enough credit. If you are one of those people who doesn't have a lot of context

and you listen to this, let me know what you think. And if you're able to follow it and if this is an

enjoyable episode to you, I might do more of this kind of stuff in the future, which is just

an episode at the end with a biographer to give a little bit of a summary and an overview and

add a little bit of extra color and context. This one was a lot of fun for me.

And so obviously a big thank you to John Turner for coming on the show. It was very kind of him

to give his time so freely and graciously. So yeah, please enjoy this interview with John Turner.

Great. I'm here with Dr. John Turner. So I've done this series on Brigham Young.

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