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Briefly Perfectly Human with Death Doula Alua Arthur

RadioWest

KUER

Society & Culture

4.8740 Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Alua Arthur’s life’s work is all about death. She’s a witness and shepherd to people who have reached the end of life. And she wants you to think about death too.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:06.6

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0:15.6

In her book, Death Dula, Alaw Arthur gives the job description.

0:20.4

Be well-versed in the practicalities of preparing for death.

0:23.2

Know the bureaucracy and legality surrounding dead bodies.

0:26.4

Sit bedside, hold hands, pay deep attention.

0:30.7

Arthur says at the end of our lives, our bodies give away clues about the type of life we lived.

0:35.0

So her book is about living as much as dying, and it's about

0:39.1

her own life as much as any of the people she helped transition into death. She explains

0:44.5

in the book that for almost nine years she'd been practicing law at the Legal Aid Foundation

0:48.7

in Los Angeles, but she hated it. She'd become deeply depressed. A house guest in her own body is how she describes it.

0:57.0

And not really sure why or what she was looking for, she went to Cuba.

1:03.0

That's where she met Jessica on a bus.

1:07.0

Jessica was 36 and she was German, traveling to see the top six places in the world she wanted to see before she died because she had uterine cancer.

1:21.6

And the ride with her, it was the most valuable conversation I've ever had.

1:28.4

I asked her if she wanted a family.

1:31.5

What got in the way of her having one thus far?

1:35.1

I ask her about her work, her lovers, her dreams, and her sorrows.

1:42.3

Finally, I ask her about the end.

1:45.0

What do you think death will be like?

1:48.0

And it also allowed me to see how hard it was for her to talk about her mortality with other people.

1:56.0

Jessica tells me this is the first time anyone has asked her these questions or wanted to listen to her talk about her death.

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