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🗓️ 2 September 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Last week, Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe informed Congress that elections security briefings in the run-up to the 2020 election would no longer be oral. There would be written intelligence product only, and there would be no Q&A sessions. Members of Congress are not happy about it.

To discuss the the change, Benjamin Wittes spoke with David Priess, a former CIA briefer who used to do briefings like this, and Margaret Taylor, a former congressional staffer who used to consume briefings like this. They discussed how big a change this actually is, whether it will stick and what tools Congress has to push back against it.

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0:25.6

no bull and the aftermath.

0:33.9

A lot of that nuance of the analysis comes out through Q&A. By members asking the briefers,

0:42.2

why are you emphasizing this? Why did you use that word? What about this evidence that

0:46.9

we've seen in other briefings that isn't included in this written document? Why is it that

0:52.4

that isn't here? That is where the real detailed work of oversight comes through finding

0:58.9

out what the analysts think, why they think it, and tossing out some questions to get

1:05.7

at the implications and maybe even probably intelligence community to look in new directions.

1:11.7

Those are all things that are, if not lost, certainly minimized if the oral briefings

1:16.7

do go away.

1:18.6

I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast September 2, 2020.

1:25.0

John Ratcliffe, last week, informed Congress that elections, security, briefings in the

1:31.6

run-up to the 2020 election weren't going to be done orally anymore. There was going

1:37.4

to be written intelligence product, there weren't going to be questions and answers, and

1:42.1

people in Congress are P.O.D.

1:45.6

We thought we would chew it over, both from the intelligence community side and from

1:50.8

the congressional side, we got just the group to do it. We've got David Prius, former

1:56.2

CIA briefer, he used to do briefings like this, and we got Margaret Taylor, who's a former

2:04.4

congressional staffer who used to consume briefings like this, we got them both in the virtual

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