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Red Lines

Briefing Encounters 2 - Judgement Day

Red Lines

BBC

Government

4.478 Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2020

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Polly Toynbee, John Sergeant & Alex Massie assess 6 months of Boris Johnson's leadership

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0:00.0

Boris Johnson rode into Downing Street on the coattails of Brexit.

0:04.9

Now he's the Prime Minister faced with guiding the UK through a global pandemic.

0:09.8

Let's imagine we're at the point where the second COVID wave is receding.

0:14.5

Is Mr Johnson still standing?

0:17.1

What state is his party in and what about his precious union?

0:22.3

Polly, what do you like as a soothsayer?

0:26.3

I'm usually wrong, but I'll give it to you for what it's worth.

0:30.7

I think that it'll take a long time for COVID to go away

0:33.7

so that people can really resume anything remotely like normal life, by which time I think

0:40.0

that Boris will be pretty much a goner. He has called it wrong all the way through. I'm sure we'll

0:44.9

be talking about more of that later. Brexit will have been pretty bruising. And the Tory party,

0:52.4

as John knows well, is utterly ruthless.

0:55.2

And if they think they haven't got a winner anymore, they'll dish him for somebody else,

0:58.6

maybe for Sunak, whoever, he may not be top of the form by then.

1:03.1

But somebody, I don't think he'll be leading us into the next election.

1:07.8

John, do you think Polly might be right this time?

1:12.5

No, she might be right,

1:17.2

but I don't think she will. You know, I think that Boris is in a stronger position than Polly suggests. I suspect because Polly wants a certain result on that. Now, I think that they've got a

1:22.9

problem, that the anti-Borris faction is a problem as usual who is the candidate what would he

1:29.5

have done better is he a real brexiteer does he care about these things um and what about the union

1:36.0

those are all the factors which are going to come into play and continue to come into play but of course

1:41.1

you're suggesting that the virus is receding in this, well, I don't know

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