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Brief: Why Didn’t I Yell STFU at Jordan Peterson in 2017?

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In the spring of 2017, Jordan Peterson first went viral by writing this in Canada’s National Post:  I will never use words I hate, like the trendy and artificially constructed words “zhe” and “zher.” These words are at the vanguard of a post-modern, radical leftist ideology that I detest, and which is, in my professional opinion, frighteningly similar to the Marxist doctrines that killed at least 100 million people in the 20th century. Remember that horseshit, or things like it? Did you guffaw because he was obviously absurd? Did you try to reason with his stans online? Did you see him as a crank influencer, or a dangerous political figure?  Did you hope his ideas would be beaten down in the marketplace of ideas? Or did you seek him out at a public event and shout him down with a bullhorn? Today, word salad like this is everywhere—including in Project 2025, now driving the Trump admin.  Matthew visits the antifascist woodshed to investigate the liberal manners, free speech naivety, and lack of community alliances that dissuaded him from grabbing the mic during a Peterson Q&A in 2017 and shouting:  “Your ideas are fascist and you should STFU. You are endangering trans people with your bullshit. Why do you care about how they experience their bodies, you whining pervert? Why are you inciting hatred against young people who want a better world?” Because… look where we are now. Show Notes Read the Memo Pausing Federal Grants and Loans - The New York Times  President George H.W. Bush on political correctness (1991) The History of Political Correctness—Lind The Pitfalls of Liberalism — Kwame Ture The Forgotten History of the World's First Trans Clinic | Scientific American  Jordan Peterson: The right to be politically incorrect | National Post  Bill C-16, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code (gender identity or expression)  Jordan Peterson is trying to make sense of the world — including his own strange journey Postmodern Neo-Marxism — Jordan Peterson’s Shadow   Doug Ford met Jordan Peterson, appointment calendar reveals | CBC News  Why are the Proud Boys so violent? Ask Gavin McInnes — SPLC   Jordan Peterson revealed he once earned $400,000 a month Antifa by Mark Bray Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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the intersections of conspiracy theories and spiritual

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influence to uncover cults, pseudoscience, and authoritarian extremism, i.e., your daily newsfeed

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at this point, I think you know where to follow us, and please support our Patreon. So, where are we at?

0:59.2

It's day 20 in America's continually emerging fascist regime and its chaotic influence over the rest of the world. And if you're like me,

1:04.4

you've been bouncing between the feeling of acute, multiple traumas and undifferentiated dread. So I'm not going to add to the

1:15.8

news crush because it's all too much and also because there are super brave journalists out

1:22.7

there who have that well in hand. In particular, I want to ping Tim Marchman and his team at Wired

1:28.8

magazine, who at great personal risk are breaking most of the news around Elon Musk's

1:34.9

techno-fash coup and are now being threatened by Musk for naming the bros who might, you know,

1:42.0

be using your personal info to train AIs that will turn your

1:46.5

social security payments into meme coins.

1:49.5

One benefit of really clear on-the-ground reporting is that it gives writers like me the

1:55.7

space to spin up an essay on what it means to not respond appropriately to fascism over years because of

2:05.9

liberal naivities and manners. Now, I'm not going to be lashing out at anybody else here. I'm really

2:12.1

looking at my own arc over the past eight years, and that's why my title is, why didn't I yell shut the fuck up

2:19.9

at Jordan Peterson in 2017? So little content warning for language as well. Now, I remembered

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