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Conspirituality

Brief: Collapse at the FDA

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Social Sciences, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.02.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

The FDA is bleeding out Covid contrarians. Marty Makary, Vinay Prasad, Tracy Beth Høeg—all gone. Jonathan Howard returns to discuss why so many RFK Jr's friends have reached the end of their bureaucratic road. Show Notes FDA Swaps Top Drug and Vaccine Regulators in Staff Overhaul F.D.A. Commissioner Marty Makary Resigns After Weeks of Pressure No One Should Care About or Trust Anything Dr. Marty Makary Says Ever Again My Sincere Message to Dr. Jay Bhattacharya: Welcome Aboard and Good Luck. We Are Rooting for Your Success. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Political tensions, anxiety, and loneliness are on the rise, but problems like these aren't new,

0:06.0

and the solutions don't have to be either. For thousands of years, societies have asked questions

0:10.9

about how to live, thrive, and love, and it was spiritual traditions that offered wisdom and tools

0:15.8

to help people find their way. Tools that science is now discovering offer real benefits. Join me, Dave Dosteno, to

0:23.1

explore how we can all use this wisdom, whatever our beliefs. Listen to How God Works from PRX,

0:29.2

wherever you listen to podcasts. On May 15th, Bloomberg published an article titled FDA Swaps Top Drug and Vaccine Regulators in Staff Overhaul.

0:43.8

Calling it a personal shake-up, the move came in the wake of the forced resignation of FDA Commissioner Marty Macri on May 12th.

0:52.6

And in what could have been an actual act of scientific integrity,

0:56.9

Macri opposed the Trump administration's decision to approved flavored vapes,

1:01.9

which the president and his tobacco lobbyist friends most certainly did not like.

1:07.5

Shortly after his departure, the FDA quietly approved two fruit-flavored vapes and issued a policy

1:13.5

allowing them to be more widely marketed because, you know, Maha. Acting Director of the FDA's

1:21.8

Center for Drug Evaluation and Research, Tracy Beth Hoag, was quickly ushered out three days after Macquarie.

1:29.6

Hogue is a sports medicine physician and epidemiologist who began her career studying

1:34.5

ultramarathon runners. Shortly into COVID-19, her star rose as a contrarian who opposed

1:41.4

lockdowns and vaccines. Now, the first time I ever came across her,

1:45.9

it was on Twitter, where she had tweeted out bragging that she had never even taken in Advil

1:52.1

after all her marathon training. So you're probably getting a vibe if you're not familiar with her.

1:57.6

Wild applause. Hogue is a longtime ally of V Vene Prasad, the hematologist,

2:03.5

oncologist, who also became a second-tier COVID contrarian. Prasad lasted nearly a year,

2:10.4

sort of, because he left and then came back, in his role as director of the Center for Biologics

2:17.0

evaluation and research at the FDA.

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