So, and then we have documentaries telling the artists, telling their stories.

And so we're really leaning into the documentary aspect of it, along with the classic sort of

cartooning, 2D, 3D worlds and stuff that we had in all space, but they look nicer now.

So that's sort of what our philosophical change was.

So we're curating more. It's not and not as much

just a flood of random stuff from people. We're laying it out. And because we have our own

platform, we have a lot more control over interactability and things we can do because we're

in a game engine like Unity. And we we positioned ourselves because we both come from cinema.

We both come from the art of storytelling that when we built the platform, we were looking at a way of

how can we use this to tell stories.

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I am thrilled that I'm finally on the podcast with Athena and Doug.

I don't even know how many years it's been since I first met the two of you.

And we started working on some projects. And I think you actually were

doing a project that was in Chris Bradley, my partners, one of a demo he was making for a project

that he was doing. And then I was like, oh, I really want to meet them because I saw how cool

everything was. It was the futurist for that show that he was putting together.

And that was my first introduction to you. And then, of course, we worked together on some things for MLK, being in Hawaii. And I just have loved seeing the evolution of everything you're doing.

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