Hi folks. I've got a cracking guest joining me today, Andrew Tracy, the fitness director at Men's Health magazine. But Andrew is no ordinary fitness expert. Oh no. He's someone who has seamlessly integrated the physical and the spiritual, straddling the world of hardcore strength,

training on the one side and deep contemplative practice on the other. So in this conversation,

we explore Andrew's unique journey to developing a lifelong, functional approach to fitness and

ultimately discovering the transformative power of meditation and self-inquiry.

He shares insights on cultivating motivation and discipline by aligning with your deepest values,

and he shares how his meditation practice has given him that critical distance from the mind's

stories, which allows compassion to effortlessly bubble up from the depths.

This is a conversation that explores the integration of body and mind and how embracing both

can lead to a more integrated, fulfilling new way of being.

Andrew Tracy, an absolute pleasure to have you on a new way of being. How are you?

I'm very, very well. And yeah, an absolute pleasure to be here. Always someone I love to catch up with.

I feel like, well, I mean, we've just been waxing lyrical for 35 minutes before this.

So hopefully I can be a little bit more succinct. Now we're rolling.

Well, let's just see how things pan out.

We don't want to set too lofty expectations.

The feeling is mutual.

I really enjoy our chats.

And you're a fascinating guy.

I think you're probably the only person I know, or I'm aware of, who really straddles the physical world,

particularly the world of fitness, men's health, which is obviously the magazine you work for,

and as well, meditation and self-inquiry, which you could bracket under the loaded word

spirituality. And I think that that's such an interesting mix you have. It reminds me of the

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