In marriage, there are seasons, and for many couples, there's a season of distance where things

just aren't as close.

Boy, there was a time in our lives.

We'd been parenting for a long time and special needs parenting for a big part of that time,

and we were both just exhausted and cold

and distant. And we knew there was something better, but we did not have the tools to figure out

what the steps were. I'm John Fuller, and I'm here with some hope for you, along with Greg and

Aaron Smalley. You offer hope to couples all the time, and I appreciate so much your faithfulness in being on this show.

You lead the marriage team, and so you see, you know, but I think what I love about you, too, is you lead from experience.

And so there have been seasons, I think, just based on previous conversations where it wasn't the best for Greg and Aaron Smalley.

No, and we go through the same seasons you talked about where we felt distant and we drifted so far apart.

We started feeling like married roommates.

And I remember one time in particular, it just, remember Aaron, we were so disconnected

because of parenting, John, as you were saying, work.

I mean, there's just all this other stuff.

So finally, someone gives us a gift card to like a local seafood restaurant kind of thing.

And so we go.

And, you know, finally we're together.

We're having great conversation.

We order some really fun food.

It was a big gift card.

And unfortunately for me, whatever we had ultimately caused a very severe allergic reaction.

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