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The Lincoln Project

Bridging the Boonies and the Boroughs with Nicholas Kristof

The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project

Society & Culture, Daily News, News, Politics

4.78.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2024

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

The conversation between Rick Wilson and Nicholas Kristof covers a wide range of topics, including the state of American politics, social justice, democracy, rural-urban divide, and the role of media. They also discuss the challenges faced by rural communities, the impact of disinformation, and the need for a more nuanced and practical approach to governance. The conversation delves into the economic and social issues affecting different parts of the country, as well as the need for a more inclusive and solution-oriented approach to address these challenges. Follow Nicholas Kristof at @NickKristof on X and purchase his new book, "Chasing Hope: A Reporter's Life" at fine bookstores everywhere. Follow Rick Wilson at @TheRickWilson on X and subscribe to his Substack at therickwilson.substack.com. Join the fight with Lincoln Project at www.lincolnproject.us and follow us on X at @ProjectLincoln. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Your enemy is well trained, well equipped in battle heart.

0:05.6

There is not a liberal America and a conservative America,

0:09.6

there is the United States of America. Good night and good luck.

0:16.0

Hey folks, welcome back to the Lincoln Project Podcast.

0:19.0

I am Rick Wilson, your host.

0:21.0

I am delighted to be joined by Nicholas Christoph today. He is a writer,

0:25.0

editor, columnist, observer of American political life at every corner. He has

0:31.8

written about subjects so diverse, it boggles the mind, but an

0:36.6

awful lot of it has been about the sort of character of this country and the future we're

0:40.6

looking for. He's written a great new book called

0:43.0

Chasing Hope and it is a story of your life in the world of

0:48.0

writing and the world of journalism. Talk to us about what inspired you to

0:51.5

write the book

0:52.6

and tell us a little bit about it.

0:55.8

Sure, well, great to be with you, Rick.

0:58.0

You know, if in the acknowledgments

1:00.1

I had been totally brutally honest

1:02.1

about how the book came to be I would have to

1:04.0

thank the Oregon Secretary of State because I had run for governor and then she

1:10.3

bounced me out of the race and all of a sudden I had time and I wanted to write a memoir in part because

1:17.8

I've witnessed these incredible changes in journalism.

1:20.6

I've been in the center of them and you know as a journalist we have kind of a

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