Bridget Phillipson: Preparing For Power
Rock & Roll Politics with Steve Richards
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4.7 • 910 Ratings
🗓️ 24 February 2023
⏱️ 31 minutes
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The Shadow Education Secretary, Bridget Phillipson, joins me this week to discuss her plans for childcare, the ending of tuition fees, new roles for schools and the mood of Sunderland voters that supported the Conservatives in 2019.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm I'm Hello and welcome to rock and roll politics, the twice weekly podcast with me, Steve Richards. |
| 0:33.7 | Thanks so much for tuning in wherever you are in the UK and indeed the rest of the world. |
| 0:38.6 | And for this podcast, the second of our week, I'm delighted to be joined by the Shadow Education |
| 0:44.3 | Secretary Bridget Philipson comes at a big moment. We've had Kirstama outlining his |
| 0:50.2 | five national missions. And of course, education will be absolutely central to whatever |
| 0:58.3 | a Labour government does if it's elected next year. Thank you so much for coming in, Bridget. |
| 1:04.7 | Could I begin by asking you about the areas of policy detail that you've been exploring since you got the brief. |
| 1:13.7 | And the one that's really been highlighted quite a lot is childcare, the need for childcare to be provided in various forms. |
| 1:23.3 | And I know one of the things that you've been doing is looking at other models, traveling to other places. |
| 1:30.2 | What have you found, we're not going to get all the detail in this interview, but what have you found from other models that you are thinking of learning from and taking from as you prepare your pitch for the election? |
| 1:44.7 | No, thanks very much, Stephen. |
| 1:45.5 | It's really good to join you today. |
| 1:48.1 | The first place I went to look at another way of doing things was Estonia, where they have a |
| 1:52.3 | very different system where it comes to early years provision and childcare. |
| 1:56.5 | So the school starts ages a bit later, but actually from the end of parental leave, you have guaranteed access to earlier as childcare. |
| 2:05.1 | And the take-up is incredibly high, even though it's not mandatory for children to start from the age of two onwards. |
| 2:11.5 | What really struck me when I was there was the quality of the provision that's an offer. |
| 2:15.5 | So it's teacher-led provision. |
| 2:17.3 | Take-ups high. And parents really benefit from that's an offer. So it's teacher-led provision. Take-ups high, |
| 2:18.6 | and parents really benefit from that kind of flexibility that comes of having a guarantee of |
| 2:25.2 | childcare being there, which is not where we are right now here in England. But what struck me |
| 2:29.3 | more broadly was just the centrality of education to Estonian life, to the nation, that it was seen as a |
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