Brianna Ghey's Murder: We Have To Talk About Transphobia w/ Jess O'Thomson
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Owen Jones
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🗓️ 7 February 2024
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
Brianna Ghey was a loved, talented 16-year-old girl with her life ahead of her. She was also trans, and suffered transphobia hatred. Almost exactly a year ago, she was brutally murdered, and the two young killers have been sentenced. Crucially, the judge acknowledged the role of transphobia in this hideous crime.
I speak to the brilliant Jess O'Thomson, a journalist and legal researcher, who sat through the whole case - about not just what happened to Brianna, but what it says about our society, and what we all now must learn.
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| 0:00.0 | Puyallengai was a young talented 16 year old girl in Warrington Northern England. |
| 0:04.8 | She was loved not least by her family, her incredibly supportive mother. |
| 0:10.6 | She was trans, she had a big online following, particularly amongst other |
| 0:14.9 | young trans people. Now, nearly exactly a year ago she was murdered in the most |
| 0:19.5 | hideous possible circumstances by two other peoples. They've now been charged and convicted of murder |
| 0:25.3 | with live sentences handed to them by Manchester Crown Court. Before Brianna's murder, she was subjected |
| 0:30.9 | to hideous transphobic harassment and bullying. |
| 0:33.0 | Crucially, her murder is now being recognized as a hate crime. |
| 0:39.2 | The context here is important. |
| 0:41.3 | Britain is in the grip of an anti-trans moral panic. Transphobia, that is straightforward |
| 0:45.7 | bigotry, prejudice directed against trans people, has been whipped up by the media and by politicians, |
| 0:51.9 | portraying trans people as at best a social problem at worst is outright dangerous |
| 0:55.8 | with very disturbing parallels with the anti-game or panic of the past. The reality that trans people |
| 1:01.5 | suffer, like abuse including in all too many cases from their own families, violence, discrimination, access to relevant health care, we could go on, airbrush for reality. |
| 1:10.0 | With all that in mind, I'm so honored to speak to the journalist and legal |
| 1:14.4 | researcher Jesso Thompson they sat through the whole trial in this truly |
| 1:18.7 | distressing case. There's no better guess than the exceptional journalist and legal researcher |
| 1:23.7 | Jesso Thompson who has been everyday sitting through this trial hearing |
| 1:28.2 | unbelievably hiring details about what happened to be at it. |
| 1:32.4 | So firstly Jess I just want to say what you've done. So firstly, Jess, I just want to say what you've done, I've been |
| 1:35.2 | reading your reporting throughout and it has been absolutely exceptional and you should be so so |
| 1:40.3 | proud of what you've done, but it can't have been easy. It's a very, it's a hugely traumatic |
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