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The Telegraph Rugby Podcast

Brian's Lions: Simon Shaw

The Telegraph Rugby Podcast

The Telegraph

Sports, Rugby, News, Sports News

4.5679 Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Ahead of the 2021 British and Irish Lions test series against South Africa, Brian Moore is sitting down with former players and coaches to discuss some of the memories which have made the Lions become the institution it is today.

In our fourth and final instalment, Brian speaks to former England second row Simon Shaw who went on three Lions Tours, including two to South Africa, but had to wait until the age of 35 and his final two appearances in red to make a test match appearance.

Shaw's appearance in the second test has gone down in Lions folklore as one of the finest ever seen in a test shirt, despite ultimately ending up on the losing side.


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0:00.0

The Telegraph.

0:02.0

Podcasts.

0:07.7

He's going to score under the post.

0:10.5

JJ Williams, the Lions leap in the air.

0:14.1

These are the days that you'd never believe will come again.

0:18.7

To win for a lion, for the Lions in a Desmurch, is the ultimate.

0:28.0

Hello and welcome to full contact with the Telegraph and our mini-series Brian's Lions.

0:36.4

In the build-up to the 2021 British and Irish Lions,

0:40.3

I've been speaking to the great and the good of Lions too has gone by

0:43.7

to get their own unique perspective on what it means to pull on that famous red shirt.

0:49.2

For the fourth and final instalment as we build up to the first test between the Lions in South Africa,

0:54.1

I'll be speaking to a man who toured with the Lions three times, including twice in South Africa,

0:58.6

but had to wait until the age of 35 to make his test debut in red.

1:04.9

Delighted to welcome the former England and three times Lions to his Simon.

1:09.1

Hello, Simon.

1:10.1

How you doing? You're right.

1:11.2

Can I just say before we start about this, Simon, in my opinion, is one of the most underrated

1:17.8

players of his generation. I've only got three Lions to us, but she'll have many more caps,

1:23.7

and he should have started many more games. Before we get on to your own Lions experience, Simon, tell you what, can you remember

1:30.9

what it was like when you were a young boy and you were a fan of what you felt about the Lions,

1:35.2

what you thought about them?

1:37.5

Well, I was thinking about this earlier, and quite bizarrely, I was never a fan, and I was only because I was never exposed to what the British lines

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