This is the reason interview with Nicholas.

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So you probably already know that the national debt is bigger than our entire economy.

But relax, because things can always get worse, and they will, regardless of whether Biden or Trump gets elected in the fall.

Each has a proven track record of spending like a drunken sailor and most projections show that the debt is going

to grow to be between 181% and 340% of GDP over the next few decades. My guest today is

Brian Reedle. He's a budget expert at the Manhattan Institute and he explains why massive and growing

debt is really, really bad,

why reducing it is really, really hard, but also really, really important, and why young people

should be really, really pissed. Here is the Reason interview with Brian Reedle.

Brian Riddle, thanks for talking to reason.

Glad to be here.

So we're about, you know, we know who the candidates are going to be.

It's going to be Biden versus Trump.

They both have track records that you have been tracking as a policy analyst at the Manhattan

Institute talking about debt and deficits.

You recently last fall released a big book of charts and doom and deficits.

We're going to talk about that.

But basically what we're looking at is the Congressional Budget Office over the next 30 years

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